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Wil Reynolds: I Am Whatever You Say I Am (Episode 19)

Wil Reynolds

I Am Whatever You Say I Am - Interview with Wil Reynolds

It’s time to dig into some real company shit

We've reached the final episode of WojCast for season one and what better way to cap things off then with the straight-shooting head of SEER Interactive Wil Reynolds?

Prepare yourself, along with the rest of the marketing industry, to take a long hard look in the mirror as Wil strips away all niceties to reshape SEO in a bid to protect the needs of his clients and their audiences from the pressures of the algorithm.

Wil Reynolds Quotes

"There's no substitute for time. I was in twice the amount of meetings as people my age because I was spending twice the amount of time working on my career, and I got more exposure than they did faster."

"I think people overvalue getting their finances straight and undervalue just helping people solve their problems. So I've always placed my focus on that."

"When you go into someone's craft and their life's work and you say, 'Well, move this around for Google – not for people – for Google. Get more rankings,' you're kind of shitting on somebody’s baby."

Key Takeaways

  • The Making of an Accidental CEO
  • How SEO Kills Art and Shits on Babies Sometimes
  • How People Work vs How Search Engines Work 
  • The Importance of Community Outreach

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Nathalie Nahai: What Makes People Click (Episode 18)

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What Makes People Click - Interview with Nathalie Nahai

Why do people do the things they do, buy the things they buy and like the things they like?

On Episode 18 our heroes brave the wilds of the human mind with the web psychologist, Nathalie Nahai, to find some answers.

In Nathalie’s interview we learn about the role web psychology plays in business, especially on digital platforms, plus we learn about the ways people engage with content and brand identity.

Nathalie Nahai Quotes

"We're moving closer and closer to creating an additional depth to our offline reality, which is so much more seamless." (5:04)

"Before you get to building a website, what are the core values you need to espouse and how will you transmit that throughout all of your content?" (17:41)

"If you have a very strong 'why', and you can say this is why we're doing it then those people with whom the message resonates will naturally congregate around you." (19:23)

Key Takeaways

  • The role of web psychology (5:55) 
  • The making of Webs of Influence (7:40)
  • DIY psychological tests (9:42)
  • The effects of wearable tech (11:03)

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Melanie Spring: Changing the World One Brand at a Time (Episode 17)

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Changing the World One Brand at a Time - Interview with Melanie Spring

Being a badass and branding go hand in hand, but doing business and thinking about the humans involved in it on both sides of the deal has a tendency to get lost in the shuffle.  

On episode 17 brand strategist Melanie Spring joins Woj and Bobby to talk about her cross-country journey to uncover the lesser known stories of businesses across America. 

Whether big or small, every organisation has to work hard to connect with the people who work for them and the people who buy from them.  A company’s branding is the essence of that connection and Melanie shows us how she can guide individuals and businesses through the processes of knowing, growing and managing their brand identity.  

Melanie Spring Quotes

"It's humans talking to humans about humans. It's all story telling. It doesn’t matter how big you are or how small you are. Basically you just have to run your company like humans work there." (5:11)

"AirBnB totally nails the user experience." (17:44)

"What's the most important thing to do when you have a brand... You have to have the basis for who you are and what you stand for." (20:52)

Key Takeaways

  • Branding is all Human (6:18)
  • The Power of Hiring Intrapreneurs (and what an Intrepreneur is) (9:02)
  • People Are Talking About You: is it the Way You Want?(10:50)
  • Human to Human (11:48)

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Oli Gardner: The Name’s Page, Landing Page (Episode 16)

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The Name's Page, Landing Page - Interview with Oli Gardner

What kind of madman would actually consider changing his name to Landing Page?

Our own Woj Kwasi had an inkling Oli Gardner fit the bill. That's why he pinned down the globe-trotting orator for an insightful interview at MozCon for episode 16 of WojCast.

Woj and Oli explore Oli's journey from Edinburgh to Canada, Unbounce's history and its future with artificial intelligence, the power of insights over data (and how to get them), how to improve the conversion rates of almost anything, and whether there's anything Oli can't optimise.

MacGyvering your way through this episode and try to capture the sweet spots on camera — that’s the Landing Page way.  

Oli Gardner Quotes

"Brand matters to us. We want to have customers who are brands and companies, valid, real businesses who care about that and don't just want some landing page."

"You probably don't want joy on a bug exterminator's website. You want some fear. You want some disgust. These ugly mosquitos or crazy spiders. So everything's different."

"You can look at the same data set and different people would derive different insights from it because it depends how you think or how intuitive you are or how smart you are or whatever. So insights are sort of a strange thing."

Key Takeaways

  • From Edinburgh to Canada
  • Unbounce and artificial intelligence
  • Insights versus data: learn the difference, it could save your life.
  • MacGyvering life.

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Marty Weintraub: Psychographic Killer (Episode 15)

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Psychographic Killer - Interview with Marty Weintraub

There is a killer on the loose!

The Psychographic Killer and founder of the company Aimclear, Marty Weintraub, joins Woj & Bobby for a mind-blowing episode of Wojcast.  

A musician by trade, Marty continues to rock the proverbial casbah and everything else he touches with his incredible audience and customer acquisition tactics. Join our heroes on episode 15 as they take a journey through the mind of a marketing legend to discover the challenges he faced building an industry leading marketing company.

Marty Weintraub Quotes

"Just keep in mind that on any given day anybody can completely suck— especially me. And on any given day anybody can change the world and impact the way marketers do things all over the world— especially me." (10:53)

"All of life is marketing my friend. All of life is marketing, all of life is arbitrage, all of life is customer service." (18:34)

"By 2018 more than 20% of business and commercial content will be written by machines and it will be better." (24:27)

Key Takeaways

  • Running a Business 101: Vision vs Execution (13:04)
  • The Art of Looking Like More Than You Are (14:41)  
  • Content: Feeding the Machine (24:08)
  • Learn How to Learn or Die (29:57)
  • Dolphins (34:35)
  • Marty On Happiness (41:49)

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Gianluca Fiorelli: ‘Luca’s Linguistic & Literary Lessons (Episode 14)

Gianluca Fiorelli part 2

Every great sci-fi flick deserves a sequel.

Gianluca Fiorelli returns for the second part of his interview to discuss how humanistic studies influences his international SEO work. From the evolution of language to literary theory, Gianluca’s academic background makes him a powerhouse in digital marketing. 

The meaning of words and interpretation of content may one day be monopolised by google as it continues to invests more resources into arranging the sum total of digitised human experience. Gianluca explains the creative process through the lens of classical European philosophers, to answer the the hows and the whys surrounding the things that influence human decision making.

Leap off of the deep end with our heroes and discover the roots of the content wars and the implications search has on the political and social landscape of the entire globe.

To be concluded...

Gianluca Fiorelli Quotes

"Just ask Google, just ask Wikipedia in order to receive an answer. Maybe yes. Maybe we can have this kind of risk. Who is controlling the game? Who is judging the judge?" (12:36)

"I think I'm really lucky to have known what to be fully analogical means because let's say if all the things we are using are going to disappear for some reason, I'll still know how to think. I think that my son or either my cousins, where they are totally digital, they would go into panic." (35:04)

Key Takeaways

  • Philology and international SEO
  • Applying high-falutin literary theory to SEO
  • Google and the Monopoly of Meaning
  • The challenge of voice search
  • The secret life of patents

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Gianluca Fiorelli: Sci-Fi & Reality Converge (Episode 13)

Gianluca Fiorelli

Interview with Gianluca Fiorelli - Part One

Never forget that the internet is a global force to be reckoned with.

It’s time to talk international strategies with SEO senior consultant Gianluca Fiorelli. Based in Europe, Gianluca has a unique perspective of the digital marketing landscape. By operating at the crossroads of a culturally diverse market, Gianluca has been a witness to the tactics that work on the global stage. 

On Episode 13 of Wojcast he takes the time to burst open a few bubbles with our heroes Woj and Bobby to help broaden their understanding of how search and marketing operate internationally.

Over a burger and fries with the blogger of choice at Moz, the team also get a lesson in robotic ethics as told by science fiction and find out why the future of AI will be determined by the porn industry.  

Bring your popcorn, choc-top and red velvet chair for an SEO super-cinema double feature with Gianluca Fiorelli.

Gianluca Fiorelli Quotes

"You could have some sort of 'Terminator' future because robots can decide for the goodness of humanity to rule humanity." (13:00)

"Sometime in the future we're going to have some sort of a mix between the 'Battlestar Galactica' cylons and the 'Blade Runner' cyborgs. Surely we'll see everything first in porn because porn is real avant-garde for everything in technology." (14:50)

Key Takeaways

  • Growing up SEO in Moz (3:15)
  • The development of search in Italy (6:43)
  • Robots from science fiction to science fact (10:22)
  • Choosing brand identities (16:32)
  • Gianluca's conference The Inbounder - which also tours to London, Madrid, New York and Milan (37:30)

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Geraldine DeRuiter: Life, Love & Goldblum (Episode 12)

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Life, Love & Goldblum - Interview with Geraldine DeRuiter (The Everywhereist)

We love Jeff Goldblum, but not as much as Geraldine DeRuiter (syntactical ambiguity totally intended).

On episode 12 Woj and Bobby take a trip with the jet setting Everywhererist to discover the roots of her liberating travel ethos, where failing at a vacation is impossible and getting lost is all part of the master plan.  

After writing her first book, All Over the Place: Adventures in Travel, True Love, and Petty Theft, Geraldine is bursting with golden nuggets of wisdom delivered with her timely sense of humour and endlessly inviting nerdery.  

After surviving career setbacks, a brain tumor and a non-existent sense of direction she proves that when life gets tricky, Geraldine finds a way.

Geraldine DeRuiter Quotes

"There's Rick Steves and Anthony Bourdain and Samantha Brown and all of these, you know, incredibly charming, successful people who tell you how you should be traveling. And I think all of that is just garbage because all that does is it creates a system in which you can fail at a vacation and that's terrible, right?" (2:31)

"You are not determining every factor of it. I think that's true if you're doing a startup. I think that's true if you're on a trip. I think that's true if you are writing a book. At some point, it kinda takes a life of its own and it's going to lead you, so I think you need to be okay with being kind of a passive sort of journeyman or woman on that trip. You know, you need to be able to sit back and let it guide you…" (7:40)

Key Takeaways

  • The art of the zig zag (7:30)
  • Squishy mortals versus Los Angeles (11:34)
  • Why Rand has serious competition in Jeff Goldblum (13:13)
  • Steve the Brain Tumor (15:57)
 Geraldine's book All Over the Place: Adventures in Travel, True Love, and Petty Theft (kudos on the Oxford Comma) is available now.

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Rand Fishkin Pt 2: It’s Kind of an Empathy Thing (Episode 11)

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It's Kind of an Empathy Thing - Interview with Rand Fishkin (Part 2)

Seattle may have lost the Supersonics but it kept one of its great homegrown resources, Moz founder Rand Fishkin.  

On Episode 11, Rand reflects on the challenges his company will face as his team attempts to return the business to profitability and return to its SEO roots

As always, Rand is especially transparent in explaining the tools and strategies Moz has at its disposal to remain best in class. 

Our heroes Woj and Bobby learn about how the company will confront the future of SEO and how Rand addresses pressure and looks after his mental health in the process.  

Rand Fishkin Quotes

"...Any time you see opacity or secretiveness, there’s almost always something bad behind it… And on the flip side, when you are transparent, the harsh criticisms that you expect turn into words of kindness and praise." (25:45)

"Many of these problems would be solved through transparency and wouldn’t even exist if you had transparency." (28:40)

"In the order of operations of Moz’s values, empathy is the only thing that sits above transparency."

Key Takeaways

  • Breaking the depression loop (20:48)
  • The value and challenges of living transparently (24:34)
  • Empathy in business (30:00)
Rand is also hard at work on his tell-all new book Lost and Founder, which will be available through Penguin.

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Rand Fishkin Pt.1 – Being Authentic Online (Episode 10)

Howdy I'm Rand Fishkin

Rand Fishkin - Part One: Being Authentic Online (A Case Study in Transparency)

Fancy running your own company?

Sweet! But before you go all Trump and start waving your CEO flag it’s time to put some serious thought into the ideas that will form the foundation of your company.  

You may know what you do well but do you honestly know why you do it? Values are everything and few founders represent what they believe as openly as Moz’s Rand Fishkin.

On episode 10 of WojCast, he reveals the roots of his religious devotion to transparency and how it helped build Moz into the industry leader it is today.

Plus Woj learns why you should never forget your gameboy... ever.

Rand Fishkin Quotes

"If you want the suit and the tie and the jacket and the formal language and no one who ever says the ‘F’ word, then we’re not the company for you. That’s not us." (11:17)

"What you want to say is 'How do I help you make twice as much from your search traffic next year as you made this year? That’s what I’m going to help you do.' And ranking is part of that." (18:00)

"Microsoft received a lot of criticism when they were growing up here in the 90s, and some of it was deserved. They were a pretty aggressive company when they grew, but they brought about the era of web and technology, and everything that we have today."

Key Takeaways

  • Living and working transparently (4:11)
  • Confronting the emotional challenges of leadership (5:34)
  • The influence of capital injection (14:04)
  • Rand's style icons and influences (21:21)
  • The ultimate inbound marketing squad (22:12)

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